Phone
me as soon as you can, I've got something you might be interested
in was the voicemail I got at around 3.30 pm on Monday 21st
July. Further investigation revealed that an interview with
multi-talented singer, songwriter, actor and entertainer Sebastian
Bach was on the cards if I was up for it.
Well, I'm not one to
look a gift horse in the mouth, and I'm a huge fan of the guy
anyway, so despite the minimum amount of notice, and the slight
feeling of panic as in "where do I start", by 7 pm I had a list
of questions that I knew would far exceed the twenty minute time slot
allocated, but at least I had plenty of back ups if he dried up; mind
you, Sebastian Bach drying up in an interview is as likely as bacon
sandwiches appearing at a Bar Mitzvah picnic.
At
7.30 on the dot the phone rang, and after a short pause I was put
through to Sebastian.
With pleasantries duly exchanged, he began by
telling me where he was at the time. "I'm in Savannah Georgia.
I just drove about 800 miles from Kentucky all night. I haven't
been in a bed that hasn't been going at 75 miles an hour down the
highway in at least four days now."
Well, that would go some way
to explaining why he sounded genuinely tired (and he still had plenty
more interviews to do that day). We got down to the business of
talking about the killer new album, released November 2007, with a
special edition released in the UK on the day the interview took
place. ‘Angel Down' is his first original solo recording since
his days fronting Skid Row, and features Axl Rose on three of the
album tracks including first single '(Love Is A) Bitchslap' and a
cover of the Aerosmith classic ‘Back In The Saddle'.
These tracks
are the first official Axl recordings to be released since 1993's
‘The Spaghetti Incident'. Sebastian nonchalantly mentioned that
he was pleased with the reviews that the album had received so far,
and then there was the tiniest of pregnant pauses where images of
synagogues full of bacon sandwiches wormed their way into my brain
(maybe he had read the review on this site), so I switched tack
completely.
As to what followed .... well, as you'll read for
yourself, I had nothing to fear after all.
What
was it like working with Roy Z?
It
was a lot of fun working with Roy mainly because we're only about 3
weeks apart in age. That might sound trivial, but we grew up on the
same stuff, the same music, the same TV shows, the same concert tours
and we both had the same goals, which was to make a high energy
incredible sounding rock album with killer screams and great riffs,
great grooves and great songs. I think we really achieved that.
It's so ironic that the first meeting that I had with Roy was at
the Rainbow in Hollywood with Bobby Jarzombek (drummer in Bach's
band). That's when we first talked about working together and Roy
said "Dude I want to make a record that has the fucking feel of
‘Appetite for Destruction' by Guns ‘n Roses. I said "that'd
be great". Not only did we do that, but we got Axl Rose to sing on
it (laughs). Me and Roy were laughing when Axl showed up at the
studio because we both couldn't believe that we were talking about
our favourite albums of all time - ‘Appetite' was like number
1, really - and then to have Axl actually sing on the record ...
like ... WOW, that's pretty amazing.
I
was going to ask you a question about Axl anyway, and it's one I'm
sure you're fed up answering, but how did you get him on board?
Well,
I didn't need to persuade him at all. I sent a text saying "when
are you going to sing on my record?" and he texted me back one word
"When". That was it. I've told this story a billion times,
and it still blows me away. Whenever I hear the record, I just hold
my head in my hands because I love it so much, I love the sound of
it, and to hear him singing on it is astonishing to me, because I'm
a fan, too. I like putting new Axl into my IPod and can't believe
it's on my record! He's singing better than ever. I did two
years on the road with him in 2006 and 2007 and he sounded incredible
on tour too.
With
Axl in such obvious good form, it always begs the question why
‘Chinese Democracy' hasn't been released as of yet?
It's
coming. Everyone's going to feel really dumb when they finally get
it. The whole world is going to go "God, why did we care so much?"
He's just making it the best that it can be. He's got his own
time frame, and it's his record. That's the biggest thing we
laugh about together, because it's so funny to hear that people are
mad at him because he doesn't put out his record. It's his
fuckin' record (laughs). Make your' own record if you want one!
You
obviously have a good relationship with him.... I get a feeling that
he has difficulty trusting people?
Well,
I've spent about three years of my life on the road with him and
that's a lot of gigs. I know he doesn't do too many interviews,
at least I haven't read too many with him. There was something on
his website www.gunsnroses.com that I knew he had written, where he
talked about ‘Angel Down'. I was just staring at my computer
screen and couldn't believe what I was reading. I'm thinking
"how can this be true!" It was just incredible.
Back
to the album, is there any significance in the title?
Well,
I started writing it in 2000 and then all the 9/11 stuff happened,
and the war in Iraq and I have a 19 year old son myself. Of course
as a father in the USA or Britain for that matter, you're thinking
about your kids going to war, you're wondering what it's for and
all this stuff. Any soldier's family knows what Angel Down is.
It's what people have to deal with ... the perversion of religion,
like people flying planes into buildings in the name of religion
which is just crazy. There are a lot of meanings to it.
What
led you to the decision to use the particular painting by your late
father as the album cover?
Well,
the easy answer is that I didn't see a better one (laughs). There
was no better cover that anybody showed me, so if you want something
done right, do it yourself. That's the one that resonated into my
eyes. My Dad died at the age of 57 and three weeks after he died I
started playing Jesus Christ in ‘Jesus Christ Superstar'. So to
me and my family the painting looked as if it was almost like him in
heaven looking at the play. He did it as the statue of David looking
down at the painting, and his name was David. But this is all too
depressing and I don't really like to talk about it, but that's
what it is. (I began
to thank Sebastian for caring to divulge even this much information,
when, true to form, he carried on ....) What
is incredible is that now we're on the Poison tour of the USA,
every night we put the backdrop up. I made an arena sized backdrop
like the size that would fit Wembley stadium - that big. Every
night we play in front of it and I look at it right before I go on.
Blown up that big, nobody can believe how incredible it looks and it
just belongs on the big stage and if he'd seen it that big, my Dad
would have freaked out. All the people in the cover are life sized
people on the backdrop. It just looks great. I hope to lug it over
to the UK next time we play because it looks awesome ... it's
beautiful.
I
love the cover of ‘Back in the Saddle'. How did you get Messrs
Perry and Tyler's blessing for that?
Axl
called Steve Tyler while we were recording it. He just goes (does
Axl impression) "we
gotta call Steven" and he just dialled the number in his cell phone
and handed me the phone. I had been screaming all day and my voice
was really high and Steven said "Sebastian, at least you haven't
lost your high end!" Then he asked "who's on bass for Back in
the Saddle?" I thought - who's on bass? Why? Then somebody
told me that there are notes in the bass line of ‘Back in the
Saddle' that you can't hit on a four string. Steven was very
concerned about that, so I told him that our bass player Steve
DiGiorgio played a fretless bass on the whole record, and he said
"oh, ok, that's good" and he was very pleased about that. But
I just thought it was so cool that Steven Tyler's first concern was
the bass line ... he was all fired up about the bass (laughs). Then
Joey Kramer called me at home and said he'd heard the cover and
thought it was absolutely amazing.
I
was really impressed with your bassist Rob De Luca last year - have
you replaced him?
Rob
does the live shows. He does a fabulous job and you can see him on
the DVD. By the way, every copy of ‘Angel Down' in the UK comes
with a DVD called ‘Roadrage'. It's an hour long hilarious DVD
that features five songs live on the Guns ‘n Roses tour and it's
incredibly high quality. It also features the making of the CD Angel
Down and we're so proud of it. When you see it you'll know why,
it's just funny and it's nice to make a new DVD.
If
I understand it correctly, the DVD was shot by your wife?
One
part of it was. The tour of the studio Sound City in Hollywood CA is
shot by my wife, the hostess with the mostest.
I
don't want to depress you but attempts were made to pick up a copy
today on Oxford Street, and it wasn't available at all.
Oh,
that's bullshit, but I have no control over stuff like that. It
certainly doesn't make me happy hearing that sort of thing. I've
got it, though (laughs). Now we're playing with Poison in front of
about 20,000 people per night and we're selling it at the shows and
I'm autographing them every night, so it does exist (laughs). That
does suck, though. What did the dude at the store say?
He
said they hadn't been sent out yet by the distributors, but it's
a well known fact that Britain doesn't work.
Well,
if I base your comment on Heathrow Airport, then I would agree with
you. Heathrow is a fuckin' nightmare (much laughter)
Talking
about airports, I believe you had a rough time trying to get to
Swedenrock this year. We were disappointed not to have seen you.
Oh,
my God, it was a nightmare. There was nothing I could do about it.
I have never cancelled a show in my life; I have never missed a show.
That was the Swedish government ... when the connecting flights were
booked too close to each other, we simply missed the connection
because the authorities made us go through customs again and re-check
all of our instruments and our backdrop and our wardrobe. The whole
tour was in the airport, and they just laughed when they saw all our
stuff. They said there's no way you're getting on this flight.
That was the Swedish government's fault. But we played at a
festival (Sauna Open
Air) two days later
in Tampere, Finland in front of about 20,000 with Whitesnake,
Scorpions, Children of Bodom, Testament, Joe Lynn Turner, Graham
Bonnet. It was awesome; totally incredible. You can see some video
clips of that on YouTube, and the crowd is out of their minds. So
Sweden's loss was Finland's gain.
Well,
we know from history that there is a lot of rivalry between the two
countries anyway...
For
some unknown reason, Swedenrock insisted that we played at 1 o'clock
in the afternoon of the first day. We played there three years ago
at 4 or 5 o'clock in the afternoon, and it was one of the biggest
attended shows of the festival, so I don't know why they wanted us
on so early. If they'd let us go on at 3 pm or something we
probably could have made it, but they said (imitates
Swedish accent)
"this is not possible". I can guarantee you that we'd have had
a big crowd.
To
take something positive from the experience, you played Norway again,
which I know is where your heritage is. I was very impressed last
year at Kvinesdal when you did some of your between song
announcements in Norwegian.
You
were there? (asks
excitedly). That
was in the middle of nowhere, man!
Yes,
I'm just back from this year's festival. It poured again.
Aw
shit, but it wasn't raining last year when we were on.
No,
but it had rained during the day, and I was worried you would reprise
your 1992 Donington stage entrance.
Oh,
I remember. That was a very rainy day (laughs). (For
the uninitiated, Sebastian executed a power slide entrance that even
Tony Hawk would have been proud of.)
Sorry
to add fuel to the fire, but I've got to tell you that your
childhood heroes Triumph played a killer set in front of a huge
appreciative crowd.
Oh,
what a bummer, now you're making me jealous (with
a groan).
Back
to touring - do you think you'll visit us in the UK, even if our
country doesn't work?
Well,
I get asked that a lot, but the bands don't decide. We need to
wait for the promoters to make an offer. We do want to come there
definitely ... probably in the Fall, because we're booked in the
USA and Canada until September at least. The last time I played the
UK was 2006 with Guns n Roses and Bullet for my Valentine and I like
to play the big stages - that's the level I want to stay at.
Well,
let's hope you get the right amount of promotion so you can still
do the big shows. Now to the USA. Ten years ago you said in an
interview "Skid Row fans are not Poison fans. I never saw any
Poison shirts at Skid Row shows. It's all Pantera, Anthrax, Crue,
Kiss, Aerosmith, Guns n' Roses - good rock bands." Now you're
going out for 2 months in the US with Poison. Has your opinion
changed since then?
Well,
number one, I was wrong (laughs). There are definitely the same
people that like both bands. That has been made very clear to me
over the last month. The real reason I said that wasn't
necessarily a personal attack on Poison. Ten years ago was when you
heard nothing but "hair bands, 80's rock, Nirvana's killing all
your bands, Poison and Skid Row are done for because of grunge, blah
blah," I hated answering for 25 or 30 other bands that I didn't
even know. It was always the same interview questions, so if you
back me into a corner like a wild dog I'll start biting, that's
part of my personality. If somebody wants to fuck with me, then I'll
say things I don't mean or that I shouldn't say or I'd just get
aggressive. That's part of my Norwegian Viking heritage (laughs)
Anyway, ten years ago, I'm sure we all said things that we regret,
or were not correct about, and that was one of them.
You
had a milestone birthday (40) on April 3rd
this year, and yet you show no signs whatever of slowing down. What
is in the immediate future for you? I know you're planning on
writing some stuff with Jamey Jasta of Hatebreed?
I've
got four songs that I'm working on with Jamey; who knows what will
happen with that, but I make whatever music I want to make, and when
you ask what's in the future, I don't look at other bands for
inspiration or whatever. I don't follow trends, I'm not a trendy
guy, but the biggest bands right now in 2008 have been doing it their
whole lives, like the Rolling Stones, Judas Priest, Heaven and Hell,
Ozzy, Van Halen is the biggest band in America now, the Police,
Genesis, Aerosmith, Motley Crue for that matter. They've all been
doing it way longer than me, and if all those bands I've just
mentioned are still rockin', I'm just getting warmed up compared to
them (laughs).
If
you had a list of things to do before you die, is there anything that
you would desperately love to do?
The
Green Goblin in the Spiderman musical which is coming to Broadway.
Bono and The Edge from U2 are writing the music.
Which
leads me nicely to the first of the Broadway questions. Which was
your favourite character and why?
Jekyll
and Hyde, 100 percent. It was fun to play and it had excellent
music.
Was
the Broadway period a time of more creativity for you? Did you feel
your voice improved for example?
All
I can say is there is a version of me doing ‘This is the Moment'
from Jekyll and Hyde that is one of my greatest singing moments.
(This is the Scene in
Act 1 that takes place in Dr Jekyll's Consulting Room on Harley
Street where he is to be his own patient to test his formula.
Check it out on
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDN0yIeeC2g.
I guarantee an attack of the goosebumps).
Just
as we were warming to the subject, we were interrupted and politely
reminded that our time was up. As we said our goodbyes I expressed
the hope that he could get a decent night's sleep that night, and
that it wouldn't be too long before we'd see him on tour in the
UK. All we need now is the promoters to get their asses in gear!
What are the chances in this godforsaken country? Bets being taken
now.
- Dawn
Irwin
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